tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5089828552519076506.post1124007027064550907..comments2024-03-28T15:55:53.792+10:00Comments on down to earth: Harvesting waterUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5089828552519076506.post-77714363800360101702010-02-19T05:54:34.365+10:002010-02-19T05:54:34.365+10:00I came upon this post while browsing your lovely b...I came upon this post while browsing your lovely blog and thought I'd contribute... although it's only to say that we do all of the things that folk have mentioned. We have no choice as we are not on mains water, and so have built a 24,000 litre cisterna (water tank) to complement the 5,000 litre one that was here when we arrived. The washing machine water is collected in plastic 1000 litre cubes and is used on the veggies. The downside (although it isn't really one) is that we forget to flush the toilet when we're visiting relatives in the UK!Janhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11430236104525571846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5089828552519076506.post-50448649395387306562007-12-25T04:27:00.000+10:002007-12-25T04:27:00.000+10:00Paula, you caused no discontent whatsoever. I was...Paula, you caused no discontent whatsoever. I was doing the same as you and making sure Australian readers didn't think it was illegal here. Your post was not negative in any way - just questioning, which is a good thing.<BR/>Our government also gives rebates on solar panels and solar hot water systems, water saving washing machines and shower heads etc. Hopefully your enquiries will reveal a forward looking state that you can move to. It is a real help when you have legislation that supports these initiatives. Hugs RJRhonda Jeanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00175785349529109084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5089828552519076506.post-7505917526359101092007-12-25T01:34:00.000+10:002007-12-25T01:34:00.000+10:00I am sorry, I did not mean to imply that you were ...I am sorry, I did not mean to imply that you were doing anything illegal. Just wanted to make sure others here in the US (United States) checked with their local government before collecting rainwater. I think it is ridiculous that it is illegal in my state. I did read about the rebate you got for your watertank. I think it is fantastic that your government gives rebates for that. I wonder if any states here in the US do? That might determine where we move once we get enough money. :) I am sorry if I came across in a negative way, that was not my intent. I love your blog and get so much encouragement from it. I just wanted to make sure that US (United States) readers knew to check before collecting rainwater. Please accept my apologies for any discontent I caused.Paulahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13563263512988137401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5089828552519076506.post-61449558471988930552007-12-24T15:59:00.000+10:002007-12-24T15:59:00.000+10:00Hi Paula. It's perfectly legal to harvest rainwate...Hi Paula. It's perfectly legal to harvest rainwater from your own roof here. Governments give rebates when you buy a tank here. The water we collect is used in our backyard, therefore it eventually gets back into the ground to replenish the water table or flows off into the back creek.Rhonda Jeanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00175785349529109084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5089828552519076506.post-5520415132531403492007-12-24T14:28:00.000+10:002007-12-24T14:28:00.000+10:00I know I am sharing this late, but I am unsure if ...I know I am sharing this late, but I am unsure if this is something you have to deal with not living in the US. I know that here in Colorado (and I know other states) it is ILLEGAL to collect rainwater. Basically, by collecting the rainwater (even the runoff from your roof) you are preventing it from getting into streams and groundwater which might prevent the water from getting to someone elses, hence, you are stealing someone else's water). There are also laws in some states that say you can only have an above ground collector. I would just encourage your readers to check out city/state laws regarding collecting rainwater. I know you have a lot of readers in the US, and the only reason I even know about the law is because I was encouraged on another blog (long time ago) to collect rainwater, and someone mentioned it to me that it broke Colorado law. Saved me a $500 fine. We are currently working on saving to move to land and hope to get land where we can collect rainwater. :D Thanks again for your blog and ALL the encouragement I get from it!!!Paulahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13563263512988137401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5089828552519076506.post-19611736209753290262007-12-16T05:46:00.000+10:002007-12-16T05:46:00.000+10:00Thank you for taking the time to post so much info...Thank you for taking the time to post so much information. Here in the north Georgia mountains we're at a level four drought (the highest level here). We have a private well that we're sure hoping doesn't run dry so we're always looking for ways to conserve.Birdiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13884792297539386809noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5089828552519076506.post-88509449404087965932007-12-15T03:24:00.000+10:002007-12-15T03:24:00.000+10:00very informative ! We just recently saw a similar...very informative ! We just recently saw a similar system here in texas.Pattyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08505042214124811641noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5089828552519076506.post-56846266206804521582007-12-15T00:38:00.000+10:002007-12-15T00:38:00.000+10:00The freezing issue isn't something I'd thought abo...The freezing issue isn't something I'd thought about in regards to water collection, but had in terms of the aquaculture setup. Don't think raising fish is something for us after all and I appreciate your thorough presentation of it. Need to do more thinking about the other.<BR/><BR/>I know our neighborhood wouldn't approve of the rainwater collection tanks and am always trying to come up with a way I could disguise them -- and trying to figure out a place where they could be housed on a lot with limited land space and no privacy. Also balk at the cost. <BR/><BR/>Right now I collect rainwater in plastic trash bins set at downspouts, but of course, this is still unslightly and comes no where to catching and storing our winter downpours for summer use. I also bottle rainwater into plastic milk jugs -- but at some point in summer, I get overwhelmed by the sheer quantity of these and toss them into the recycling bin -- so at a lack now when the sky is providing so generously.<BR/><BR/>I haul my bathwater and dishwater out in summer and have a barrel set up with soaker hoses to re-use our laundry water along the south side of our house. However, reading the links provided, I see again I should be concerned that even those products labelled "environmentally friendly" really might not be. But what if it is labelled "safe for greywater use" ??? Should I trust it? It seems I need to.Wildsidehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08317552263657289647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5089828552519076506.post-10809556355711804872007-12-15T00:16:00.000+10:002007-12-15T00:16:00.000+10:00Rhonda,Thanks for sharing with us how you save/col...Rhonda,<BR/>Thanks for sharing with us how you save/collect your rain water. Here in Ontario we obviously are not facing drought conditions but what we are facing, and have faced for a while now, is aging water treatment plants and polluted water. Just take a look at Walkteron several years ago -- E. Coli infested water got into the water system and several people died. <BR/><BR/>Many first nations communities/reserves have been on boiled water advisories for years due to bacterial contamination. Just this past year a reserve was evacuated because of all the health issues arising from bad water. Even public beaches have had to be closed to the present of bacteria and green algae. Not a pretty site in the least. And I'm sure something the Tourism board doesn't want to advertise.<BR/><BR/>But as for water conservation, I would say I try to eliminate showering everyday, and wearing pants, shirts, sweaters several times. Any bottled water that comes into the house, i.e. I bought some while out or picked up at a function ( i know! Bad habit, must learn to stop that!) goes into my jug for plant water, same with kettle water that has been sitting around for a day or so. <BR/>I wash dishes by hand, and if possible do those every other day. That's more of a case of hating to do dishes than water conservation. lol<BR/>Cheers,<BR/>Maggie<BR/>http://creativeportal.spaces.live.comAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5089828552519076506.post-59612336163714707012007-12-14T15:33:00.000+10:002007-12-14T15:33:00.000+10:00shell, I hope you get enough back in your tax retu...shell, I hope you get enough back in your tax return to invest in a tank. Often, if you get a council rebate and the State government rebate you don't end up paying much at all, but as you say, you have to pay up front and claim it back. Good luck with it, love.rhonda jeanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08962112306968959985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5089828552519076506.post-35127435287399164922007-12-14T14:50:00.000+10:002007-12-14T14:50:00.000+10:00I hope the rebates are still around by the time we...I hope the rebates are still around by the time we can afford a tank, Rhonda. <BR/><BR/>We should be eligible for our local council and the Qld state government rebate. We've got a problem that I'm sure a lot of people have. If there was a way of getting the rebates upfront, say when you purchased the tank for example, we could have gotten one ages ago, as it is on a single income with 3 kids we don't have that sort of cash lying around. <BR/><BR/>Hopefully the tax man will be kind to us at the end of the next financial year :-) and we will be able to get a tank then.<BR/><BR/>Shell.Shellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11610792072604666926noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5089828552519076506.post-60130473610894281652007-12-14T14:30:00.000+10:002007-12-14T14:30:00.000+10:00Shell, you're doing some useful things there. keep...Shell, you're doing some useful things there. keep up the good work. Will you get a rebate when you buy a tank?<BR/><BR/>Jennifer, I'm fascinated by the practical aspects of living too. I love knowing how others do their chores and make life easier for themselves.<BR/><BR/>Jo, we also have 200 litre containers under two of our downpipes. They collect enough water for me to water my pot plants. Maybe you could find similar containers. Put it on the side of the house no one sees. ; )<BR/><BR/>Krista, yes, it is quite common. In the old days we commonly had tanks on houses here. In the past 50 years they've been phased out but are making a come back. If we had a good sized tank on every Australian house, we'd have far fewer water problems.rhonda jeanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08962112306968959985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5089828552519076506.post-19379727344251153342007-12-14T14:11:00.000+10:002007-12-14T14:11:00.000+10:00I am absolutely fascinated and envious! Is it comm...I am absolutely fascinated and envious! Is it common in Australia to collect water like this? <BR/><BR/>How long has Australia been in a drought?Kristahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15896941341075639503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5089828552519076506.post-77629652904750313262007-12-14T12:53:00.000+10:002007-12-14T12:53:00.000+10:00Wow--very impressive. We haven't experienced water...Wow--very impressive. We haven't experienced water shortages where I live, but I would still love to have one of those big tanks!Lisahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00752127661649469401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5089828552519076506.post-70077868681982615752007-12-14T08:47:00.000+10:002007-12-14T08:47:00.000+10:00Rhonda JeanBelieve it or not but posts like this a...Rhonda Jean<BR/>Believe it or not but posts like this are why I originally came to visit your blog. I live in southern New Mexico and for the past 2.5 years the water restrictions have been substantial. <BR/><BR/>I have taken stock of the situation and researched the internet and found many ways to salvage all sorts of water. In our community we have persons that sole job is to observe the usage and misusage of water. I could not afford the fines and decided that we could really use the brains effectively.<BR/><BR/>We are moving 15 miles south this month and will be converting the house to utilize even the gray water more effectively. In the city where I live the things we will do may look to another as an eyesore, such as your holding tanks, therefore we decided to move more rural to maximize all the water without wasting.<BR/><BR/>I am running on, but I wanted to say that your tips have been quite useful even across the globe.<BR/><BR/>Thank you very much.<BR/>Jennifer<BR/>New Mexico USAPen of Jenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18256174061249630595noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5089828552519076506.post-34337058969424917362007-12-14T07:34:00.000+10:002007-12-14T07:34:00.000+10:00Hi Rhonda,We're hoping to get tanks put in within ...Hi Rhonda,<BR/><BR/>We're hoping to get tanks put in within the following year.<BR/><BR/>We've had the home water wise plumber around to fix our leaking taps, install low flow taps and a low flow shower head and we replaced our geriatric toilet with a low-flush option.<BR/><BR/>I only water the garden using greywater, and I wash my car with greywater and rinse it with rainwater that I collect in a bucket. <BR/><BR/>I've put one of those big camping water coolers on the end of the kitchen bench to stop everyone turning on the tap and letting the pipes cool down before filling their glasses. <BR/><BR/>The kids are still young enough to shower together or with one of us to save water and we time our showers with a 4 minute timer (we aim to get out as quick as possible though). Oh, and taps are always turned off to brush teeth and I wash up in a round tub, it uses less water than the sink.<BR/><BR/>Regards,<BR/><BR/>Shell.Shellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11610792072604666926noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5089828552519076506.post-70602988799383110722007-12-14T07:25:00.000+10:002007-12-14T07:25:00.000+10:00jacran, our lowest winter temperature, would be ar...jacran, our lowest winter temperature, would be around the 2 - 3C mark. It never freezes here. But it would freeze at many places in Australia where people would have these types of tanks. There are also tanks that people put underground. I reckon they'd insulate the water.<BR/><BR/>chile, thanks for your list. I'll be over later to look at your water section. : )Rhonda Jeanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00175785349529109084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5089828552519076506.post-4000257551449505932007-12-14T07:20:00.000+10:002007-12-14T07:20:00.000+10:00As desert dwellers in the SW US, we do many of the...As desert dwellers in the SW US, we do many of the water-conserving measures that you do. As renters, we don't have the option of installing a cistern, but we did add some elbows and pipe to the downspout on part of the roof. Water from just over 1/3 of the roof is now diverted to two citrus trees. They are much healthier as a result. <BR/><BR/>I've gone into a lot of detail on my blog about how we save water. Just clicking on the water label will pull those up. Here's a quick list off the top of my head:<BR/>- short shower every other day<BR/>- sponge off other days<BR/>- use valve to turn off shower water while soaping up<BR/>- collect water in bucket in shower that runs from tap while showering (5 gal/shower)<BR/>- use this water to fill toilet tank (not as low-flow as we'd prefer)<BR/>- "if it's yellow let it mellow; if it's brown flush it down" in practice<BR/>- use camping portapottie for some urination saving many flushes <BR/>- wash dishes by hand <BR/>- dish rinse water goes to garden<BR/>- save veggie washing water for garden<BR/>- use hot canning water to wash up dishes<BR/>- wash the car once or twice a year only<BR/>- heavily mulch garden to hold water<BR/>- water garden early on hot days<BR/>- use energy efficient front-loading washing machine<BR/>- wear jeans until they need washing (generally at least 3 days of wear)<BR/>- don't wash sheets as often as they need it <BR/>- in summer, drain washing machine water into 5 gallon buckets and haul out by hand (Will be plumbed in our own house!)<BR/><BR/>That's all that's coming to mind right now. Gotta get back to my tangerine marmalade. Thanks for a great post and pictures!Chilehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11406176434011890590noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5089828552519076506.post-72388980566696638372007-12-14T07:07:00.000+10:002007-12-14T07:07:00.000+10:00It's great to see your water system, and it's made...It's great to see your water system, and it's made me wonder how something like that could work here. I don't know what your winters are like there, but here it gets very cold. It's -2 celcius here now, and that's almost considered a pleasant day! Do you have to worry about your system freezing in the winter?JacquiGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06580912233349212417noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5089828552519076506.post-48188290460331958262007-12-14T06:10:00.000+10:002007-12-14T06:10:00.000+10:00Thank you for sharing this, Rhonda Jean. I'll com...Thank you for sharing this, Rhonda Jean. I'll come back later and re-read.Wildsidehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08317552263657289647noreply@blogger.com